What’s New in the Cross Reference Library? Being Money-wise

The Legacy Journey - What does the Bible really say about money? About wealth? Much does God expect you to give to others? How does wealth affect your friendships, marriage, and children? How much is “enough?” There’s a lot of bad information in our culture today about wealth—and the wealthy. Worse, there’s a growing backlash in America against our most successful citizens. But why? To many, wealth is seen as the natural result of hard work and wise money management. To others, wealth is viewed as the ultimate, inexcusable sin. This has left many godly men and women confused about what to do with the resources God has put in their care. They were able to build wealth using God’s ways of handling money, but then they are left feeling guilty about it. Is this what God had in mind? The Legacy Journey takes you deep into God’s Word, revealing His perspective on wealth, your personal and family legacy, and how he wants to use you to further His kingdom work around the world. You can truly live—and leave—a legacy. The journey starts today. 

Your New Money Mindset - Many of us live with ongoing and unexamined tension related to money. Few of us have really escaped the credit-card trap or freed ourselves from worries about having enough for the future. Coauthors Brad Hewitt, CEO of Thrivent Financial, and Dr. Jim Moline, licensed psychologist, believes we haven’t spent enough time examining our fundamental attitudes toward money and aligning those attitudes to our core values. Before we can remake our money habits, we need to start with our hearts. In Your New Money Mindset, Brad and Jim guide you through the New Money Mindset Assessment, which will help pinpoint what attitudes about money you could work on in order to develop an openhearted attitude to life.

What’s New in the Cross Reference Library? Living for the Mission

Brothers, We Are Not Professionals - In this updated and expanded edition of Brothers, We Are Not Professionals, John Piper pleads with fellow pastors to abandon professionalization of the pastorate and pursue the prophetic call of the Bible for radical ministry. “We pastors are being killed by the professionalizing of the pastoral ministry. The mentality of the professional is not the mentality of the prophet. It is not the mentality of the slave of Christ. Professionalism has nothing to do with the essence and heart of the Christian ministry. The more professional we long to be, the more spiritual death we will leave in or wake. For there is no professional childlikeness (Matt. 18:3); there is no professional tenderheartedness (Eph. 4:32); there is no professional panting after God (Ps. 42:11).” 

“Brothers, we are not professionals. We are outcasts. We are aliens and exiles in the world (1 Peter 2:11). Our citizenship is in heaven, and we wait with eager expectation for the Lord (Phil. 3:20). You cannot professionalize the love for His appearing without killing it. And it is being killed.” 

“The World sets the agenda of the professional man; God sets the agenda of the spiritual man. The strong wine of Jesus Christ explodes the wineskins of professionalism.”  

Unchained - Ron and his wife, Jean were watching the news showing the emaciated body of a dead teenage girl carried from a field in Thailand. Horrified by the devastation ensnaring a mass populace of Cambodian refugees, during the “Killing Fields” of 1979. Ron and Jean were heart-stricken. At that moment, God spoke in Ron a clear directive that began his harrowing forty-year mission to serve the needy in forsaken regions worldwide. Unchained is Ron’s real and raw experiences in the center of massive human displacement, starvation, illness, injury, death, and grief—the atrocities of wars, natural disasters, disease, congenital malformation, and the work of those who gave selflessly to save and assist millions of lives. Unchained also carries readers through Ron’s journey of overcoming childhood abuse and hopelessness. Releasing the past by forgiving and learning to love those who hurt him freed Ron to find true meaning and purpose in life—helping and serving others. The healing of Ron’s heart ultimately readied him for God’s extraordinary and unexpected call: to found and lead Medical Teams International, which continues to serve the needs of those who otherwise lack medical care, food, clean water, a voice, and love. Ron has witnessed God’s miraculous work among the worst human conditions and discovered the source of utmost fulfillment and joy. All resulted from one word of response to God, “Yes,” that moved him out of his comfortable chair with one resolve: to give his all to those most in need.

What Is The Bible?

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This edition of Ask the Pastor features Pastors Gary Hashley and Tim Hebbert.

Gary Hashley
Well, good morning and welcome to another edition of Ask the Pastor. Tim, when it comes to our Ask the Pastor Times, and I don't know if these just came from Russ or if these came in from other people, but one of them is simply, "What is the Bible?" So that's going to be our topic for the next, almost 15 minutes that we're going to spend together. My thought goes immediately to the first verse of the book of Hebrews, Tim. Where we read, "God, who at various times and in various ways spoke." That is what the Bible is all about, and that is that God spoke. You think about it. God could have created the heavens and the earth. He could have started all spinning, put people and animals and all the things here, and then distanced Himself and then looked down upon us and said, "okay, figure it out. Figure out who I am. Figure out how you got here. Figure out why there's a standard of right and wrong, even in your hearts, even without the Bible. Figure it out." And I'm so glad He didn't leave us to simply figure it out, but that God spoke. Now, He speaks through creation. The heavens declare the glory of God. You just look around and say, "this couldn't have just gotten here all by itself." So you look and say, "there must be a God and God must be wanting us to know Him." But He also spoke with various specific ways in the past. He has spoken audibly to different ones. In the Old Testament in particular, sometimes it was a sign or a wonder or a miracle by which He shared something about Himself. Sometimes an angel would speak. Sometimes they would cast lots to make a decision. The Year of Uthumam(?) in the Old Testament with the high priest. Somehow, whatever those were, they were a way which God would speak and reveal Himself. There were those who had dreams, visions. Jesus came. That's what Hebrews says, "In these days, He'd spoken by His son." But what we're going to talk about today is the fact that we have the Bible that God chose to give us, in written form, the things we need to know while we're here. I've often said, "the Bible is everything God wants us to know written down so we can read it and understand it." So yes, it's important to know, what is the Bible? So Tim, jump in here.

Tim Hebbert
Well, I've got three things written down, and we'll just ping pong back and forth. But the first one I have is, I believe that the written word is a living, breathing, spiritual organism. Everyone knows the scripture 2 Timothy 3:16, "All scripture is breathed out of the mouth of God and profitable for teaching. For reprove, for correction, for training and righteousness that the man of God may be completely equipped for every good work." You can't be completely equipped for every good work unless you know what the word of God says. But I got to thinking about this earlier today, Gary. It's very similar to what God does in Genesis with Adam. He forms him out of dirt and he breathes the breath of life into him. He breathed his own substance into Adam to create man. So in the Holy Scripture, what we have written down that God's given us, He's breathed that same substance, that same life affirming, life giving, spiritualness into that. And so, most of us out there, if we've read this, read the Bible on a fairly regular basis, have all encountered a moment. When I'm reading a passage that I've read dozens and dozens of times, on this particular day the scripture speaks to me in a different way than it has in the past. That's not my brain making that up. That's the word of God, having the authority God's given. It has authority in our life because it's not man's words. That's where we get into contradiction with the culture that says, "well, it's flawed because men wrote it." No. Men wrote it down, but God wrote it.

Gary Hashley
Yeah. Peter talks about, "Holy men of God spoke as they were born along by the Holy Spirit." God had a message for us and He wanted to make sure we got it accurately. So there were about 40 different men, it appears, that were used over a period of 1500 or 1600 years, that spoke for God and ended up writing it down for God. And though they used their vocabulary; they used their thoughts in some ways, their experiences. In some ways, what they ended up writing was exactly what God wanted written in that original, in the theological terms, the original autographs. Or the original copy that which Moses wrote down, that which Isaiah wrote down, that Daniel wrote down that which Peter wrote down. Now it's divided into two parts. Your Bible has an Old Testament or old covenant and a New Testament, a new covenant. The Old Testament dealing mainly with the people of Israel and how God through them would bring a savior to us. The New Testament, covering the time that Jesus was here and then the time after he ascended back to heaven in those early days of the church where God is continuing to reveal Himself. And you have to understand, the Bible came to us progressively. We didn't get it all in one full swoop. They had the books of Moses. Then they had the poetic books of the Psalms and Proverbs, and they had the historical books. They had the prophetic books. And then we get the gospels, the four accounts of the life of Jesus from four different guys, four different perspectives. All still the spirit guiding them. And then you get the rest of it, the epistles, and then you get the end. You get the Book of Revelation. But the Bible is God showing us, teaching us, writing down for us the things He wants us to know. And the scripture you quoted, all scriptures given by inspiration of God. So the books of Moses are inspired. The books of history are inspired. The books of poetry are inspired. The books of prophecy are inspired. The gospels, the epistles, even the apoctalyptic Revelation is inspired by God. He wants us to know what's there.

Tim Hebbert
So here's the exciting part. It's inspired and it's written down by man, but what separates our Bible from any other holy book is Jesus. So, and not to pick on other religions, but when Muhammad wrote down the Koran, he's calling it a divine revelation from Allah that he writes down. Joseph Smith, in the Mormon faith, he writes down the revelation he supposedly was given. But with the Bible, John 1:1, here's where it changes. The living expression, the living revelation stepped into earth. For me the scripture, the holy scripture, the Bible is the written revelation of the living revelation. That's exactly what John 1 says to us. "In the beginning was the word," capital W. Or in the Greek, the lagos, the living expression. It's what separates holy scripture away from every other book that's ever been written in any other religious form. It's written about Jesus by Jesus for Jesus. I get people telling me things that they disagree with, where I'm at culturally. "Well, Jesus never said that." And maybe he didn't say it in the gospels, but I have a standard answer to that. "Yeah, he did. It's called the Bible." If it's in the Bible, it's done through His divine purpose for us in life.

Gary Hashley
And if it were up to you and I to imagine who God is, and what He's like. To come to a conclusion in our own thinking and our own reasoning, how is one saved? How does one get to heaven? We'd come up with any number of possibilities, because there's a number of ideas out there. How do you know what's true? That's what I love about the Bible, because the Bible is God's word to us. This is the truth. Jesus said he was the way, the truth and the life. But he also said to the Father, "Thy word is truth. And so many people, "my truth, your truth, his truth, her truth." I want to know, what is the truth? We used to teach a song to boys and girls years ago. I think Child Evangelism Fellowship is the ones who published it. "I have a precious book. It's the word of God. It's the only book that God has given. When I read, God speaks to me. I see Christ and Calvary the wonderful word of God." Satan is against everything God is for and for everything God is against. And so, when God has given us His word, Satan doesn't want His word. He wants it out of our schools. He wants it out of our houses of Congress. He wants it out of our courtrooms. He wants it out of our lives. Why? Because he knows this is the truth that changes lives. And we have it here written down for us. And like we were talking earlier, we need it all. I heard one person say that the Bible is like a prescription the doctor gives you and on it, it will say, "take all of it. Not just the parts you like." Not just the easy parts, but read it for what it is. I had a gentleman tell me years ago, "Pastor Gary, I read the Bible from cover to cover once." And I said, "well then, do it again. And do it again." My pattern is, I sit down every morning and I read five chapters because I like to get big chunks of the word of God. Then I study it out in smaller pieces. But I want to know what God says from cover to cover. And we need more than---and I don't want to pick on the daily bread. We need more than a verse or two, and then a story and a poem. We really need to dig into the word of God.

Tim Hebbert
Well, we were talking about this before we went on the air that, and I can't remember her name, but read a book here recently and the writer had spent a lot of time in Israel studying the culture. And she said, one of the big differences between the way the Middle Eastern culture approaches and the way that the Western culture approaches scripture is, she said, "in the Middle East, they devour God's word. They read God's word for a single purpose, and that is to encounter Him." We have a tendency, through our smaller devotions, in our country to go through a couple of scriptures and try to farm out a little nugget that helps us get through the day. And so, what happens if we're not careful is, instead of the scripture being about God, the scripture starts to become about us. And I want to throw one thing at you, before I give it back to you, Gary. This is the other thing for me. The scripture is where I learn what God's voice sounds like. I believe God does speak to us. It's not like in the Old Testament when he spoke to those, but because even through the early times of the church, the writers of the New Testament, He's revealing everything to them. He still reveals things, but He's revealing things in my life about me today. But if I don't read His scripture, if I don't read His word, I'm not going to know what His voice sounds like. But when I read the scripture and He speaks to me through the scripture, I know what His voice sounds like. So that when He comes and says, "Tim, I need you to work on this." When I get that feeling, I know it's God's voice speaking to me. I love this scripture that Jesus said in John 10, "my own sheep will hear my voice, and I know each one and they will follow me."

Gary Hashley
And it is so important that we commit ourselves to the fact that the truth is in God's word and that we need to know it, because God's will never contradicts God's word. I had a gal tell me one time that God had told her to leave her husband and to marry the guy she worked next to at the little factory that she was employed at. And I said, "no, He didn't." "Yes He did." I said, "no, He didn't." She said, "yes, He did." And I said, "no, He didn't, because God's will never contradicts God's word." So we know God's will from what we read in the Bible today. People are trying to rewrite it. They're trying to make culture fit into the Bible instead of letting the Bible change culture. And so, yes, the Bible is God's truth for us today. Jesus said it will never fail. It will never fade. It will never be removed from our lives. "While the earth remains, not one jotter, one tittle will pass from the law." So yes, the Bible is really the most important book ever that you can get your hands on. And if you're not reading your Bible every day, you need to do that.

What’s in the Cross Reference Library? A Best-selling novel and Devotional by Francine Rivers

Redeeming Love - California’s gold country, 1850. A time when men sold their souls for a bag of gold and women sold their bodies for a place to sleep. Angel expects nothing from men but betrayal. Sold into prostitution as a child, she survives by keeping her hatred alive. And what she hates most are the men who use her, leaving her empty and dead inside. Then she meets Michael Hosea. A man who seeks his Father’s heart in everything, Michael Hosea obeys God’s call to marry Angel and to love her unconditionally. Slowly, day by day, he defies Angel’s every bitter expectation until, despite her resistance, her frozen heart begins to thaw. But with her unexpected softening come overwhelming feelings of unworthiness and fear. And so Angel runs. Back to the darkness, away from her husband’s pursuing love, terrified of the truth she no longer can deny: Her final healing must come from the One who loves her even more than Michael Hosea does…the One who will never let her go. A powerful retelling of the book of Hosea, Redeeming Love is a life-changing story of God’s unconditional, redemptive, all-consuming love.  

A Path To Redeeming Love: A 40-Day Devotional - We know that God loves us unconditionally. So why is it so hard to break free from the past and live in that truth? The classic best-selling novel Redeeming Love, inspired by the biblical book of Hosea, introduces a love so profound that it forever changes Angel, a woman who had viewed herself as broken beyond redemption. With A Path to Redeeming Love: A 40-Day Devotional, you can immerse yourself daily in the truth of God’s unshakable love for you. Personal essays from Francine explore key themes from the novel—Rejected, Resigned, Rescued, Redeemed, Reconciled, Restored—inspired by Scripture. In addition, each daily devotion includes: 

  • an excerpt from Redeeming Love, Angel and Michael Hosea’s classic love story

  • Bible verses for meditation

  • prompts for Bible study, prayer, and journaling to enhance reflection and application

Whether you feel stuck or hurt, confused or lost—or simply want to experience God's boundless grace—this devotional invites you into a transformative understanding of God’s redeeming love.  

About The Author: New York Times bestselling author Francine Rivers continues to win both industry acclaim and reader loyalty around the globe. Her numerous bestsellers include Redeeming Love, A Voice in the Wind, and The Masterpiece, and her books have been translated into more than thirty different languages. 

How To Deal With An Addiction - Ask the Camp Pastor

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This edition of Ask the Camp Pastor features Pastors Adam Sanders, Colby Houchin, and Art Devos.

Art Devos
Today we are going to just have a special episode. We're going to talk about one main question. We've had a couple different questions that have come in all related to this topic, but this is just a very special podcast all focused to this one question. And this question is, "how do I deal with an addiction that I've had for a long time?" Alright, so we're going to talk about addiction today, and what that means. And how we can really go deeper into the word about this and to escape that addiction. And we want this to be practical for you. We want this for you to understand that you know that you are not alone, that you are loved, and that we are here for you and many like us. And we just want to walk through this with you. So we're going to start by let's define addiction.

Colby Houchin
Yeah, that is a big and loaded question as this conversation is a big and loaded conversation. One thing I want to say before I attempt to define addiction is that there's a million different places that this conversation can go. We are pastors, not clinicians. We are not counselors per se. We're not psychologists. We would get different perspectives from those different professions. Some good, some less helpful, some more helpful. A variety is really good on this conversation. But we have to remember that this isn't going to be a perfect, full conversation about addiction. There's going to be things that we missed. There's going to be things that you may disagree with us about. We might disagree with each other. I think it'll be good. So I wanted to just start with a definition and I think there's a few different definitions that I kind of pulled from and I kind of put some together. And so a really complicated, complex one. I think I pulled this one right off of Google, off of a medical website. So it said, "addiction is a neuropsychological disorder categorized by a persistent and intense urge to use a drug or engage in a behavior that produces natural reward despite substantial harm and other negative consequences." Not very short. I could barely even read another way to look at it. "It's a chronic dysfunction of the brain that involves reward, motivation, and memory." So that's a very psychological one where it talks about patterns of human behavior that will lead to what they call a dysfunction. One that I kind of landed on that again, it's not perfect, but I think it's something that helps us kind of process through it is, "it's the condition of being given into a habitual dependency." So it is to the point where you have a dependency on something, and it's habitual in your life. And what I wanted to highlight on this, and I feel like Adam, you might have more to say on this, what I wanted to highlight when looking at addiction, and let's say that it is a habitual dependency that shows that not all negative behaviors and actions are addictions per se. There's certain criteria that has to be met in order for something to be an addiction. It doesn't just, I overeat one time and now I am a glutton. That's not quite the way it works. I don't have an addiction to food because I ate way too many Oreos one night. There's a process that takes place. Do you have anything more that you want to say on that?

Adam Sanders
No, I think that's a great intro point to it. And I think one of the things we feel really convictional about as a group is---I don't know if you guys have experienced this. But I've seen in a lot of these areas with an emphasis movement towards counseling, which I think there's been some very positive things of that. I think there has been an tendency for pastors to almost kind of step out and ignore the spiritual component of things like this. And we definitely don't want to do that. We want to make sure that we're addressing the heart and coming at this from the vantage point of what does God have to say about these things and really want to be extremely practical in how we go about offering some wisdom to you today in order to help get you on the right steps.

Art Devos
And we can sit here and we could list off a lot of things that could be considered addictions and whether it be alcohol, whether it could be pornography. I mean, we could just sit here and go down and give a straight list. Now we understand that a lot of the questions that came in most likely are dealing with pornography issues. And we're going to definitely address that as a part of this. I know for myself, I've received multiple calls over the years from parents and some kids of saying, "Hey, my kid has an addiction to pornography, will you talk to them? Will you work with them?" And some kids are saying, "Hey, this is a problem in my life, and can you help me get through this?" And so I know that's a bigger one that definitely needs to be addressed for sure. But the root of these addictions are all really kind of coming from the same avenue. And that's one thing that we also need to address today as a part of this.

Colby Houchin
Before we move any further, I want to talk about a few different common types of addiction. And you touched on them a little bit. And I think these three categories are helpful to think about for a couple of reasons. 1. It shows that there's diversity. 2. There's different ways to combat these different addictions. There's different ways to get trapped in them. There's going to be people that have tendencies to be more vulnerable or susceptible to certain types of addictions. And there's going to be different ways that we, so if you go to a counselor or a therapist for example, they're going to treat these types of addictions in different ways. So, one of the biggest categories of addiction is substance addiction. And that's what we, especially outside of the church, substance addiction is one of the ones that people think about the most. So, that would be if you are addicted to food and eating. If you are addicted to nicotine; if you have an addiction to cigarettes, for example, or tobacco. If you have an addiction to any type of drug, whether that be a pharmaceutical drug or whether that be. A really hard, dangerous drug that we find on the street that isn't medicalized. And really just any substance. So one that we talked about beforehand, that I hadn't even thought about is vaping. Vaping is a very prevalent addiction in today's youth because there's a lot of accessibility. There's a societal element of some people think it's cool. There's a lot of lies about how it's safer than cigarettes, for example. It's actually terrible for you! But the reality is that substance addiction is one of the first major categories. The second category is sexual addiction. Now, there's a lot of ways that sexual addiction can kind of play out. So the first one that Art talked about is pornography. And that's probably the most common. And so there also, and by the way, there's going to be some big adult words used in this episode. We probably should have started with that. I apologize for that. But be prepared to have conversations, and be aware of the age of the ears that are listening to this. So you can have a addiction to masturbation outside of pornography. Those can be separate. They're usually put together. You can have an addiction to sex, especially, and that's often seen in high society where the ability to have sex with a lot of people is more attainable. Lust is kind of just a spiritual reality that just pervades sexual addiction. You can have just sexual thoughts. And I even think there can be body issues that fall under the sexual addiction category. So, body issues that lead to shame and feelings. Worthlessness or distortions in who we are and what we look like. I actually think that falls under the category of a sexual addiction of some sort. And then the third, and this is actually a more prevalent type of addiction, if we're honest with ourselves. It's activity addictions. So there's people that are addicted to adrenaline, and they make really stupid decisions because of their desire to have the chemical response to exciting things. You can be addicted to social media. And again, this is where it kind of gets a little prevalent and a little uncomfortable. Video games: if you play Fortnite every single day for multiple hours a day, I have a hard message for you. You are probably addicted to Fortnite gambling. That's one that's sometimes more of a hidden addiction. Shopping. Shopping can definitely be an addiction. And compulsive behaviors, those are all activity addictions. And so again, what we see is substance, sexual, and activity addictions. And all of them, again, they start in different ways. They're going to be addressed in different ways, but they all fall under that category of a dysfunction in the way that we live; and a dependency that we slowly grow into those categories.

Art Devos
Absolutely. Thank you for that. I appreciate that. And I think that's going to be really helpful for you to know and understand, really a lot of these starting points for it too. As human beings, we're already creatures of habit. We can form habits very quickly and that also includes good habits, alright? But with things that are sinful, with things that really lead us down this road to these addictions and things like that. It always starts innocently enough. And we know this, we understand this, we recognize this. It always starts innocently enough. In there where you get just a little bit of a taste of it. A little bit of a hint of it. Why do you think that sports betting sites offer you a hundred dollars of free money immediately?

Colby Houchin
Yeah, you put in five and they give you a hundred dollars credit.

Art Devos
Right. Across the board, you will see that, "oh, you are new to our site, we're going to give you $250 to bet." And you start to, "oh, I won once." And what do you do with that? You're like, "man, I could win more."

Colby Houchin
It feels good to win in those situations.

Art Devos
It does. And the thing is, you don't have any bettors that lose 100% of the time. Likewise, you don't have any bettors that win 100% of the time. And the law of averages starts to play out and more people lose than win in these bets. And Vegas knows that. But it all starts with just that little bit of a, "I got a taste for it, I got a taste for it." You go into social media stuff---let's stay in the activities department here right now of the categories, social media. You start to see that younger and younger kids are opening up social media accounts. Getting Snapchat, and it used to be Facebook, and obviously Facebook is now for the old people like me. But it started out with that, and even on Facebook, it started out with just mindless scrolling. And you want to make sure that everything you put on there is seen for everybody else, that there's a certain amount of likes that start to come with it. And you start to feed just that human response of like, "oh, I just got 130 likes in two hours because I posted this." And it starts to become more and more.

Colby Houchin
But something to add onto that, specific to social media, is that they design their algorithms in the way that your phone will get a notification. I mean, it depends on your settings, but oftentimes they set it up to where they will hold notifications back, and then flood them towards you as a draw tactic. So it's not just that you so happen to be engaged with things like Facebook, but it's designed to pull you in and to engage you. And to hook you and to grab you and to encourage a certain response that is positive to the human psyche; and to lead you into desiring that more and more. So it's not just that we like it, but it's designed for us to like it and to get hooked on.

Art Devos
No, absolutely. And as we look more in, what's the root of all of this? Where does this kind of start? Well, I mean the most simplistic answer that I could probably give, and I don't mean to dumb this down but, where is our focus? Where does it start? If your focus is on Christ, you tend to stay focused more on Christ and not of these types of things.

Colby Houchin
There's not a lot of gambling that happens in church when you're actually focused on the Lord.

Art Devos
Right? Exactly. No, that's exactly right. And we are actually, we're called to live in a certain way. And so I want to go to 1 Peter, that's where I'm going to start us out here in scripture. But 1 Peter chapter one, and I am going to start with verse 13. "Therefore, gid up the loins of your mind to be sober and rest your hope fully upon the grace that is to be brought to you at the revelation of Jesus Christ as obedient children. Not conforming yourselves to the former lusts, as in your ignorance, but as He who called you is holy. You also be holy in all your conduct because it is written be holy for I am holy." Alright. So God has set His standard for us in how we are to live. And it is that we are supposed to continue to be focused on Christ, because before we came to know Jesus Christ, before we were established in our faith in him, lived a certain way. And what was that way? It was, "if it feels good, then I'm going to pursue those things regardless of what that is." Look at toddlers. What do they do? Toddlers are all about themselves. They're all about what is going to make them feel good in that moment. They don't think beyond anything other than that moment. So if they see a toy that another kid has, they want that toy. They immediately go for that toy, right? That's a toddler. They're just acting off of their own satisfaction in that moment. Even as adults, before we come to know Christ, that's what we tend to do. We tend to satisfy ourselves and we buy into what the world tells us we need in our lives. And so we pursue that. Well, God is saying, "Hey, you know me now, don't keep living in those lusts when you were ignorant." You know as, "no, you pursue me." You live and you focus on me in these things. And so that's where we start to see, because how can addiction happen in Christian people? Right? Well, our eyes start to come off of Christ.

What’s New in the Cross Reference Library? A New Book & Study from Laura Story

When God Doesn’t Fix It - Worship leader and recording artist Laura Story’s life took an unexpected turn when her husband, Martin, was diagnosed with a brain tumor. Their lives would never be the same. Yes, with God all things are possible. But the devastating news was that no cure existed to restore Martin’s short-term memory, eyesight, and other complications. The fairy-tale life Laura had dreamed of was no longer possible. And yet in struggling with God about how to live with broken dreams, Laura has found joy and a deeper intimacy with Jesus. Laura helps us understand we aren’t the only ones whose lives have taken unexpected turns. She examines the brokenness of some of the heroes of our faith, and shows how despite their flaws and flawed stories, God was able to use them in extraordinary ways. And it was not because of their faith, but because of the faithfulness of their God. God may not fix everything. In fact, although your situation might not ever change or get better, with Jesus you can. 

Don’t Miss The Study Guide - In this five-session curriculum, Laura examines the twists and turns that took place not only in her own life but also in the lives of many of the heroes of the faith. She reveals how God used crises in the lives of people such as Abraham, Sarah, David, and Paul to bring them closer to him and set them on the path he wanted them to take. She also shows how God used each of these individuals in spite of their flaws and brokenness. God may not fix everything in our lives. In fact, our situation might not ever change or get better. But we can know  that God will lead us to a place where we are better because of it.

How Do We Become More Christlike In Our Lives?

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This edition of Ask the Pastor features Pastors Johnathan Hernandez and Garry Schick.

Garry Schick
Hey, so here's the question, and I think it's great. "What role does the Bible play in our daily lives and how can we become more Christlike in our everyday interactions?" So Jonathan, this is one that was brought to you. What are some thoughts you have about it?

Jonathan Hernandez
Yeah, so as we think about those questions, I think first the Bible shows us God's character. And it provides for us God's revelation of Himself to His people. I think the Bible does an amazing job as we just really step into it and just really read it. Just really seeing that heart of who God is, and as we see His heart, we can see how we can take the scriptures, read them, and just really see it for ourselves and allow it to really take root into our lives or really for us to be able to apply it into our lives. God's word is unchanging, it's faithful, it's loving. Obviously, there's some discipline within it. So we think about that in 2 Timothy 3:16. It talks about how the Bible's profitable for teaching. For reproach or reproof, correction for training, for righteousness. right? And so we look at that and the Bible is this amazing thing that we can just apply into our lives like that; to when we need correction. The Bible will show us as we read through that the Bible is kind of like that place. The Holy Spirit really reveals to us, "oh, well, guess what? I'm maybe walking outside of God's design for my life." Well, the Bible's going to show us that it's going to help us see that as we read through that the Holy Spirit continues just to convict us in those areas. And so like I said, I just love that we get this opportunity as we study the word that, yeah, there's times when the correction hurts, right? But I mean, it's beneficial in the long run if we could just really, I think we live in such a, "see it now," mentality instead of seeing the big picture. And when the Holy Spirit's correcting us, yeah it hurts now, but if we could look at the big picture. We could see what God is really doing in our lives and how that's going to play out ultimately in the end. I think, how can we be more Christ-like within our interactions? I think of the fruit of the spirit, "but the fruit of the spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control and against such things there's no law." When I feel like I'm not walking in any of those, they're not evident in my life, well, it really helps me think, "okay, well am I in the place that I need to be with God or am I walking outside of that, or walking in something that I shouldn't be?" I think when I look at that, if I have no love in my heart, well obviously then there's something wrong. Something's going on. If there's no joy, if there's no peace, there's things that are going on that's really shaking who I am. So I need to get back in alignment with God. I read a book that's actually part of a discipleship group that I am a part of. I get to teach or whatever, and the book's called Journey to the Inner Chamber. And there's a character in this book, his name's Gabe. And just really seeing Gabe's heart, and how his heart really aligns with who God is and just seeing how he walks through that. I love that book. It's a good book if you guys ever want to go and read it at some point. But in the book, Gabe has a guy that comes and tries to burn down his barn. He has a farm, and Gabe, when the guy lights the barn on fire, he tries to run away and falls and breaks his leg. And Gabe comes and stumbles upon him when he goes out to find his barn. The book says that the character in the book, he actually helps this guy. He braces his leg, takes him back home, and then on top of that, he feeds that guy's family for the next several months while the guy recovers. And our carnal thought process is, "well, he deserved what he got. He broke his leg. He shouldn't have put," but that wasn't Gabe's heart. It was, "yeah, he may have done wrong, but I'm going to give grace. I'm going to extend grace and I'm going to love on him." And I think the more we spend time with God, I think we start learning how we can do that same thing: extend grace when maybe the world's taught us we shouldn't. But God is saying, "yeah, you should."

Garry Schick
Yeah, and I think you're right. The Bible is our standard that shows us a different path. God's standard for us. And think of Jesus' words, "man does not live by bread alone, but by every word that precedes from the mouth of God." But with that in mind, we still have to feed on it. We still have to take it in, digest it, and let it do its work in our lives. That question, "what role does the Bible play in our lives?" Not to be a little bit harsh here, but sadly not nearly enough of a role. Some people, you just wonder, does it play any role at all? People identify as Christians. I mean, I'll be honest, even in my own life, I mean I can know the word, but can the word be seen in my life? And one of the scriptures that kind of hits me hard on this is James 1, where in verse 21, he says, "therefore put all filthiness and rampant wickedness away and receive with meekness the implanted word which is able to save your souls. But be doers of the word and not hearers only, deceiving yourselves. For if anyone is a hearer of the word and not a doer, he is like a man who looks intently at his natural face in a mirror. For he looks at himself and goes away and at once forgets what he was like. But the one who looks into the perfect law, the law of liberty, and perseveres; being no hearer who forgets, but a doer who acts; he will be blessed in his doing." So, I think even for those of us who have what are called devotions, daily time in God's word, there is a temptation to become very familiar with the word. To kind of let it scratch our interest points, but not necessarily let it go deeper into our living of our lives. And so I just find it so helpful to say, "Lord help me, feed me today through your word. Show me what I need to feed on, and where I need to let the word change how I operate. How I connect with the world around me, how I treat my wife and kids." And sometimes it's hard. You know, I think it's not unusual for people to come to the word or hear a sermon and say, "oh boy, I know exactly who needed to hear that today." And they're not talking about themselves. Every now and then people say, "oh, that is what I needed to hear today." And that's what a preacher loves, and I'm sure it's what God loves. When we, "and it wasn't easy, but I needed to hear that." And to let God's word do its work. And it will! It will build you up, it will edify you, it will strengthen you. And it happens little by little. But again, as you were talking about how the word works in our lives, another parable of Jesus that came to my mind. It was one where he talked about, "those who are faithful in very little will be given more." I think when we are faithful to apply just a little bit in a little area, God will say, "okay, now here's more to help you with some more." But a lot of it will, I think just blow right past us until we make the connect where we don't just hear it, but see ourselves in it, meditate on it, and let the spirit work through it and be prayerful about it. And prayer, meditation on the word, letting it sink in and just really asking the Lord. "Lord, I want to reflect Jesus far better than I do. I know I don't in so many ways. Out in public, but also at home, every area of our life." And even deep inside, just the conversation we have with ourselves about whatever. I think it's so easy to fall into habitual ruts of complaining or crumbling or bitterness or whatever. And so that quenches the spirit and then it cuts off that life flow that brings life change. But if we let the word into those deep recesses of our lives, I think it disciples us. I was thinking the other day, there is such a difference between being taught and being discipled. To be taught is to learn more, to know stuff. To be discipled is to like change. It's to be like Jesus. And I think there's a great temptation for all of us to just sit back and be taught. But God wants to go farther. He wants us to be disciples. Yes.

Jonathan Hernandez
Yes. So good.

Garry Schick
And one more thing, listeners, if you're feeling maybe a little conviction, I hope so about, "am I a learner or a disciple?" It means being willing to step out and do some hard things as a disciple of Jesus. "Hey, I'm out of my comfort zone, but I want to follow Christ." And don't worry, the more faithful you are, the more your spiritual muscles will develop and he will use you in great ways.

What’s New in the Cross Reference Library? A New Novel by Kim Cash Tate

The Color of Hope - Stephanie London led a life of comfort and ease in St. Louis before feeling inexplicably drawn back to her father’s roots in the tiny Southern town of Hope Springs. Charlotte Willoughby has lived  there all her life and longs to make a new life somewhere else. Stephanie doesn’t know exactly what she’s doing there—or how to occupy her time. And Charlotte doesn’t understand why, despite her overbearing family and reminders of her failed engagement, she’s suddenly led to stay. Despite its small-town charm, Hope Springs itself is at a crossroads. After a failed reconciliation attempt by two well-meaning pastors, the town is split along racial and cultural lines, with little hope for redemption. When a terrible tragedy puts Hope Springs on the national radar, the entire town is tested, and both Stephanie and Charlotte feel their lives unraveling. In the midst of heartache, though, they’ll discover the true color of hope…

About Author Kim Cash Tate - She is an author, Bible teacher, speaker, singer/songwriter, and YouTuber.  As an author, she has written several books, including Cling: Choosing a Lifestyle of Intimacy with God and her fictional Promises of God series. In addition, Kim has an active YouTube channel featuring bible studies and practical, biblical teaching. She has also created and written a scripted web series called Cling The Series, in which she played a leading role, airing on her YouTube channel. Feel free to check out the other Kim Cash Tate book we have, Cling: Choosing a Lifestyle of Intimacy with God.

What’s New in the Cross Reference Library? A New Book & Study from Dr. David Jeremiah

Living With Confidence in a Chaotic World - A global pandemic. Violence in the streets and cries of injustice across communities.. Economic instability. Never before has life felt so chaotic. In the midst of it all, we need to know how to respond when our challenges exceed our courage. In Living with Confidence in a Chaotic World, pastor and best-selling author Dr. David Jeremiah lifts our eyes from the trouble around us. With inspiring stories and biblical truth, he shows how to live above the chaos as he answers our most urgent questions, including: 

  • How can we weather tumultuous times with a calm heart? 

  • What does it truly mean to “wait on the Lord?”

  • What is Jesus saying to our chaotic world today? 

  • Can we take a broken world and rebuild it into something fruitful?

We live in unsettling times, but we don’t need to be confused or frightened. When we stay committed to God’s will and walk moment-by-moment with Him, we can live with confidence and hope in this age of turmoil. 
Don’t Miss The Study Guide - In this study guide, Dr. David Jeremiah will show you what to do to stay confident in Christ amidst the chaos and conflict of the present day. With the ten biblical principles discussed in this study, you will be firmly rooted in the truth of God's Word and have a roadmap to follow when times are tumultuous. Be encouraged that when Christ returns, all the chaos will disappear. And in the meantime, find peace in this promise.

What’s New in the Cross Reference Library? Fact v.s. Fiction

For the Record - Betsy Huckabee has big-city dreams, but nobody outside of tiny Pine Gap, Missouri, seems interested in the articles she writes for her uncle’s newspaper. Her hopes for independence may be crushed, until the best idea she’s ever had comes riding into town. Deputy Joel Puckett didn’t want to leave Texas, but unfair circumstances have made3 moving to Pine Gap his only shot at keeping a badge. Worse, this small town has big problems, and masked marauders have become too comfortable taking justice into their own hands. He needs to make clear that he’s the law in this town—and that job is made more difficult with a nosy reporter who seems to follow him everywhere he goes. The hero Betsy creates to be the star in a serial for the ladies’ pages is based on the dashing deputy, but he’s definitely fictional. And  since the pieces run only in newspapers far away, no one will ever know. But the more time she spends with Deputy Puckett, the more she appreciates the real hero—and the more she realizes what her ambition could cost him. 

Divided We Stand - The ideological left is transforming America into something our founders never intended. Our national motto, E pluribus unum, no longer means “out of many, one,” but has been replaced with Ex uno, multi, “out of one, many.” In divided America, it means identity consciousness reigns as we become polarized by calls for diversity, equity, and inclusion; that radical view is echoed by the intimidated business world, most media, the corrupted education establishment, and especially the deep-state big government. Behind the veil of massive corruption, polarization is tearing at our foundation at the hands of the big egos of the rich and powerful—especially their evil agent, Satan. In Divided We Stand, Bob Maginnis reveals this insidious agenda and explores where it intends to take America and accelerate steps to the prophetic end times. Maginnis identifies  in seventeen chapters: 

  • The roots of division seeking to transform America, especially the powerful elite and their unseen master, Satan

  • Division as the instrument for evil across human history from world wars, dark personalities, and ideological movements

  • The deeply divided America, which is afflicted with cancerous polarization in seven critical institutions—family, politics, religion, education, the workplace, the media, and government

  • Strategies to overcome that cancerous division from family to nation-state, offering real recommendations to help reclaim America

  • Specific and principled Holy Spirit-guided roles for today’s Christian living in this polarized world and insights into how division plays a leading part in the soon-coming prophetic end times